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TOWN COUNCIL
TOWN OF TffiURON
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CALL TO ORDER
Mayor Nygren called the adjourned meeting of the Town Council of the Town of Tiburon to order
at 7:35 p.m, Tuesday, March 8, 1994, in Room 5, Del Mar School, Tiburon, California.
A. ROLL CALL
PRESENT: COUNCILMEMBERS:
Thayer, Thompson, Friedman, Kuhn, Nygren
ABSENT: COUNCILMEMBERS:
None.
EX OFFICIO:
Town Manager Kleinert; Town Attorney Ewing;
Town Planning Director Anderson; Town Engineer
Bala; Minute Clerk Kearney
B. PUBLIC OUESTIONS AND COMMENTS
Mayor Nygren noted the presence of several television reporters and cameras and stated they would
be accommodated as long as they were not disruptive to the meeting.
There were no public questions or comments.
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C. PUBLIC HEARING
1. MARINERO ESTATES PRECISE DEVEWPMENT PLAN (A.P. #58-100-20,
21 - Continued Discussion)
Mayor Nygren turned the chair over to Councilmernber Friedman.
Chair Friedman noted that two new plans would be addressed this evening.
John Collette, Applicant's counsel, referred to his letter to the Town Council dated March 7, 1994,
forwarding the two subject plans in response to the previous direction of the Council. He reviewed
the "21 Lot Plan" which reduces the height limits to 24-1/2' for the homes on the ridgeline,
resulting in a 15' limit on the back upslope of the buildings. He noted that lots 20 and 21 are shown
conditionally and requested the Council to reconsider allowing these lots for the following reasons:
a) all the environmental concerns can be adequately addressed, b) these lots have less visual impact
than any other lots on the site, and c) because the only way they can respond to the height
reductions adequately is to eliminate two additional lots to allow for the increased spreading ofthe
homes on the building envelopes. Mr. Collette stated that the applicant feels these restrictions are
excessive and harsh and stated they are submitting the proposed 21 lot plan under protest which
could result in legal challenge.
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Further, he reviewed the "24 Lot Plan" which is essentially the same as the 21 lot pLm but includes
3 lots on the lower portion of the property and a proposed reduction of the 24' roadway to a 12'
roadway which will reduce drainage impact. He recommended acceptance of this pLm which
represents a 20% reduction in density; stated they are prepared to reach an accommodation based
on the 24 lot pLm; and referred to two tables showing building envelopes and house size heights.
tvlr. Collette: summarized by stating that the total area covered by building and hal dscape in the 21
lot plan would be a total of7.68 acres for entire project "ith 92% of the site remaining permanent
open space. Total coverage for the 24 lot plan would be 9 acres or 91% of site remaining
pemlanent open space. He stated that both plans have an added trail connecting Vistazo West
through the central riparian corridor to L)lford Drive and allowing a connection to open spacc and
the Martha property.
Mr. Collette commented that the roadway to lots 21 and 22 is justified because since the original
EIR was prepared, additional infomUltioJ) has identified the arachnids in this area as not being
unique to this area and. therefore, there is no basis for any special restrictions relating to their
protection, and the road would not cause any ham) to them. Additionally, the visual impacts of this
road would be minim.! because this area is obscured by existing ridges.
There was discussion regarding possible relocation of lots 21 and 22 to other areas on the site and
subsequent difficulties; the efforts of the applicant to ease the clustering submitted in the previous
plan; the reduction in height limits that could cause inconsistencies in lot sizes and houses in the
development.
Chair Friedman clarified that the maximum heights allowed will be subject to the design review
process, as well as house square footages.
Councilmember Thayer questioned rmder what conditions on the 21 lot plan would the applicant
lift their protest; and Mr. Collene responded that the main concern is the density issue and the fact
that they believe the three lots can be built in the central ridge area without significant adverse
impacts.
There was discussion about an agreeable e"'tension for review of the newly proposed plans.
Mayor Nygren questioned the Town Engineer regarding the Fire District's questioll about the ability
of turf block to support an 18 ton truck; and the Town Engineer responded that there would indeed
be damage, but if there was a fire. there would be other damages as well, and he is not concerned
about this. However, he stated that turfblock would be an e"l'ensive altemative and would require
substantial maintenance by the property owners.
Mayor Nygren questioned where guest parking would occur on the proposed 12' driveway to lots
20 and 21; and the Town Engineer recomm""ded a minimum of 18' driveway and stated this would
be a safety issue because fire tmcks would not be able to park.
On lots 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, Mayor Nygren questioned whether hammer head turns were allowed
OJ) a cw-de.sac of more than three homes; and the Planning Director responded that the cnt off
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point for hammer heads is three lots and ahemative access would have to be provided on additional
lots.
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There was discussion regarding whether the proposed plan would be balanced in terms of cut and
fill; the need for permanent siltation catch boxes to protect the marsh and plants; needed slide repair
in the newly proposed plans; the square footage limits of 4500 square feet proposed in the EIR
under the larger lot alternative; the costs and responsibilities of on going open space maintenance;
the possibility of hiring an outside party to maintain the open space or establishment of a trust by
the developer for open space maintenance.
The Town Engineer responded that these issues can be resolved at the tentative map stage.
Regarding sewer lines in the open space areas, the Town Engineer stated that damage would be
done to the open space during installation of the sewer lines. Further, he stated sewer line locations
could not be establi.shed at this time, but did state that even though heavy equipment will only be
used ifnecessary, it would cause extensive damage to the open space and a consultant should be
hired to determine how much damage will occur and report on a plan for repair before approval is
issued by the Town Council. Further, he stated that turfblock will not be adequate on any steep
driveway areas.
Mayor Nygren pointed out that the Fire District requires that no driveway or road be over 18% in
steepness and the proposed driveway would exceed that percentage.
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Councilmember Thayer questioned the Planning Director whether a view study would be useful to
the Planning Commission when reviewing this project to determine primary views from each
building envelope within the project; and the Planning Director responded that the applicant has
intended to make the lots large enough to provide views from each lot and the Town generally is
concerned with views from existing, surrounding lots.
The Town Engineer noted that the applicant should respond to how proposed siltation boxes can
be accessed for maintenance and cleaning. However, he did say there would be less siltation than
now because the slides will be repaired. Further, he stated an adequate topographic plan should be
provided to the Planning Commission outlining landscaping materials.
Councilmember Thayer asked the Planning Director whether the applicant's plans for providing
affordable housing as a condition for building the project would be useful for the Planning
Commission during review of the proposals; and the Planning Director responded he would
recommend as a condition that this issue be resolved before the tentative map is approved.
Chair Friedman questioned Mr. Collette's statement that the 21 lot plan was being submitted under
protest; and Mr. Collette responded that they did not want to give the impression to the Council that
because they were submitting the 21 lot plan, they were agreeing to it.
Vice-Mayor Thompson again questioned Mr. Collette whether the 21 lot plan was totally
unacceptable; and Mr. Collette responded that they consider the restrictions placed on the applicant
to be excessive and they are simply preserving their rights. Further, Mr. Collette noted several wild
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flower preserves near the proposed project owned and maintained without any problems by the
County for many years.
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Regarding concerns about the preservation of the spider habitats, Mr. Collette stated the EIR
consultants found that the spiders were not rare or endangered; therefore, mitigation is not required,
particularly at the eastern rock outcropping.
Regarding the sewer lines, Mr. Collette stated detailed studies cannot be done until it is known what
the final project configuration will be. He pointed out that it is projected that the sewer lines need
not be more than 2 or 3 feet deep; and secondly, the total surfilce disturbance for the sewer lines will
be less than one-quarter of an acre and restoration of the grasslands can be accomplished according
to Zander Associates.
Regarding the sihation boxes, Mr. Collette stated there would be two stages, during construction
and after construction. The siltation boxes should be used during construction to prevent erosion
into the fresh water marsh. After construction, little sihation control will be required because of the
improved conditions on the site.
RECESS
Chair Friedman called a recess at 9: 15 p.m. and reconvened the meeting at 9:25 p.rn.
Chair Friedman opened the public hearing.
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George Landau, 82 SugarloafDrive, stated he is convinced this project is vital to the spiritual life
of this community; stated the Town Council did not direct the applicant to produce the two
proposed plans; stated the applicant's tone and posture has remained unchanged; stated the applicant
is ttying to blackmail the Town by threatening a lawsuit; stated it is unfair that the IRS is threatening
to bankrupt the Town; recommended compromise by allowing the citizens of the Town to purchase
the property; stated most of the Town's citizens do not want any development at all on the property;
and requested an opportunity to discuss this option.
Carolyn Friedman, 108 Lyford Drive, stated that according to Salem Rice, who originally mapped
the entire peninsula area, extensive testing of the property should be done prior to development
because he suspects there are fur more slides on the property than originally mapped; and suggested
the Town Council walk the property with Mr. Rice to obtain his comments.
Frank Rox, SugarloafDrive, questioned the legal significance of the applicant submitting the 21 lot
plan "under protest"; stated that filing a plan under protest has no place before the Town Council;
stated the Town is entitled to know what plan is being submitted; stated Mr. Collette should be
forced to express "what is on the table"; questioned the legal status of the land relating to the IRS;
questioned whether the IRS has a contract with any other party to purchase this land; questioned
who is paying the costs for processing this application--is it the Federal Government; questioned
whether the applicant has made any investigation of the view impacts for the proposed plans;
stated these new plans should be considered new and subject to review by the Planning Commission
prior to the Council's consideration of the proposed plans; questioned whether the IRS will attempt
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to sell off the property; will the IRS include a provision for servicing the property ...,ith water, do
they plan to use the Sugarloaf water tank, and who will pay for enlarging the existing tank if
necessary.
Peter Friedman, 108 Lyford Drive, asked the Council to consider the scar tbis development will
create on the land no matter how small tile percentage of development; questioned who the
developer really iso-is it the IRS and if so, why; questioned if a developer will be required to
reimburse the applicant for the development funds already e:,,:pended; questioned who the rcal
beneficiary is; and stated that should a lawsuit result, there is a wealth oflegal professionals who
would offer their services on a pro bono basis,
Mrs. Terwilliger stated she would like the property to remain as it is; that it not be developed; that
more opeD space is needed: and stated the citizens should try to purchase the land.
Bill Atchley_ 1721 Mar West, questioned Chair Friedman which plan is being considered and ,tated
the COUIlcil cannot vote when there is not a specific plan before them.
Denis Rice. former Mayor and former ChairlIllUl of the Open Space Bond Election in 1972-73,
noted the Agius case that went before the Supreme Court which upheld that a landowner is only
entitled to a land's rea~onable use; therefore. he recommended the application be rejected.
Jerry Riessen, 616 Ridge Road, stated the proposed plans would be too massive and would appear
as a wall; requested a visual representation of the plans be presented; corrected Mr. Collette's
previous statement that the wild flower preserves are maintained by tbe County when, in fact, they
are maintained by the Landmarks Sodety. !v1:'. Riessen referred to a letter from the Marin County
Open Space Disuict of December 1993, stating that a meeting took place with ML Collette. Mr.
Riessen, and a representative of the Open Space District at which time the long term maintenance
of the site was discussed, Conoem was expressed at that time that homeo'Allers would forget the
proper (llaintenance of the site in the fimlIe: stated the Marin County Opctl Space Distri<-1: had
offered to maimain the property, but Mr Collette had stated the applicant preferred respons.ibility
for maintenance. Therefore, a maintenance plan wa, requested, but as of yet such a plan has not
been submitted by Mr. Collette. Mr. Riessen reminded the public that the plans submitted propose
private open space; stated this is inappropriate: and urged the Council officially state the Town
prefers the County !l1;l . ',lin the property Further, he recommended the Council allocate a
minimum of 90 days I". : ",iew of the newly proposed plans to address the concerns e"-pressed.
Barbara Meislin, 116 Lyford Drive, urged the TOWIl Council
deny this application; stated legislators are waiting for action
preserve open space.
protect the open space and vote to
the Council to set an example to
Mark Ginalski, 1828 Vistazo West, referring to the March 7 994,lelt,- 'rom the applicant was
misleading by intimating that reduced density was first requesled by the Cmmcil at their March 1,
1994, meeting and he requested the record reflect that scores of meetings were held by the Planning
Commission and the To\,n Council whereby the applicant was contin' asked to reduce the
density: stated the EIR did not considcr any impacts on resource conservauon zones or easements
and this is another example ofwlty the EIR needs to be recirculated; stated 11f" ,,,fonnation needs
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to be addressed regarding the spiders; expressed concern regarding the proposed roadway to lots
21 and 22 and its inilingement on the spider habitat buffer zone; stated specific requests have been
made by the TOVvTI Council to the applicant to eliminate lots 21 and 22 and they are still in the plan:
stated the applicant's plan should be one they agree with and can accepL otherwise, these
proceedings are a waste of time; added that ~en though the density is reduced, environmental
impacts are not necessarily reduced as well; stated aU issues need to be studied by experts; stated
the applicant is placing unreasonable time demands ou the Town; stated the applicant has created
their 0\\11 predicameut ofmnning out oftim,,; recommended one of these plans be returned to the
P1anniug Commission with the caveat that the applicant supports the plan submitted; sugge:.ted an
appropriate time extension be allowed for the appropriate review of the plan.
Carolyn Friedman verified that the Landmarks Society maintains the protected wild flower areas
around Old St. Hilal')/s Church.
Chair Friedman closed the public hearing.
Upon questioning by Chair Friedman and Mayor Nygren. Tl-tJ. Collette stated that the tenninology
"uuder protest" means that the applicant is simply following the Council's direction and their
submittal of the plan does not necessarily mean they agree with it and reserve all tbeir legal rights.
WIth respect to v.hieh plan is on the table. Mr Collette stated the 21 lot plan is the plan responding
to Council direction; stated they will remove lots 21 and 22 if so directed: clarified that the proposed
road would only be 12' through th" buffer area expanding to 18' after it leav"s the buffer area. .
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Chair Friedman questioned what geotechnical studies have been completed on the site; and M.r,
Collette responded that indepth studies have been completed by Mr. Miller in much mOle detail than
those conducted by MI. Salem Ric". Further. Mr. Collette stated the 24 lot plan is not on the table
unkss the Council so directs; stated he does not intend. as the court-appointed receiver of the
property. to develop it; it is not the intent of the IRS to develop the property: but it is the intent of
!'vir. Stonehill and Mr. Brooks, the ov.ners, to see the property improved and the IRS, as the li"n
holder has consented to allO\\ the application to move forward; and it is his responsibility to enhance
the property and/or get the property in a position for sale.
When questioned who is actually paying for the application process, Me Collette stated there have
been a series of properties taken over from Mr Stonebill and Mr. Brooks; proceeds from the sale
of some of these properties are funding this process, and the IRS is not involved in the process a,
a developer.
Chair Friedman remarked that he would like the PlaJllliug Commission to revie\\ the sewers, roads,
fire issues, catch basins, testing, story poles, etc. ofthe proposed pIau; stated he is not concerned
about potential lawsuits, but about making s-ure the development is dooe correctly; rcquested the
Town Attorney make sure the extension granted is concrete and the pIOpOSal complete, or it should
be demed.
Councilmernber Kuhn recommended an ex'teIlsion of 30 days bc granted subject to additional time
required to complete a thorough analysis of the 21 lot plan; that the plan be referred to tIle Planning
Commission; stated the filing "UIlder protest" by the applicant '. l!llIleCessary and offensive; stated
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that contrary to Mr. Collette's legal explanation, he still views this as an IRS application; however,
the Town should proceed with the 21 lot plan and act as expeditiously as possible.
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Vice-Mayor Thompson expressed SUIprise at getting this plan at the last minute; stated the Council
has had only four working days to review the proposal; stated the plans should not have been
considered this evening; the Council should have gone forward with the denial without prejudice
and start working towards a new proposal immediately thereafter. Further, he stated he has
consistently requested no homes be built on subridges; suggested the far right riparian corridor be
preserved; expressed concern about maintenance of the open space areas; stated it would be unwise
for the Town to make a quick decision regarding the 21 lot plan; recommended denial without
prejudice.
Mayor Nygren stated the 24 lot plan is definitely not acceptable; lots 5, 6, and 7 still have the same
significant impacts; stated she cannot see any circumstantial changes; stated all state and federal
agencies have expressed concerns about the uniqueness of this property; stated the 21 lot alternate
was requested many times for review by the Planning Commission; expressed concern over the
shortness of time given to review this plan; stated there is a multitude of unanswered questions
regarding the feasibility of this project, including cuts and fill, are fire regulations being complied
with, questions regarding lots 20 and 21; direction of trenches and impacts; the completion of view
studies; the long term management program for the open space; stated she would like the State
Departments to review the proposed plan; issues of fences; who will pay for extension of the
existing water tank; issues relating to cable T.V.; stated it should be sent back to the Planning
Commission for their review; and stated 30 days is not enough time.
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Councilmernber Kuhn emphasized that two alternatives are before the Council, to either deny the
application without prejudice or proceed with evaluation of the 21 lot plan; stated that the Town
should give opportunity to review the 21 lot plan.
Chair Friedman stated that if a time extension was not available he would vote to deny the project
without prejudice; noted receipt of a letter dated March 8, 1994, from Mr. Collette and stated that
the Town has raised many concerns in addition to the density issues which must be addressed; stated
that the Town actually loses money everytime a house is developed within the Town in terms of
services and it is misleading to state the Town makes money in property taxes.
Councilmember Thayer stated he supports referring this project back to the Planning Commission;
stated a responsive showing has been made and it is reasonable for the Town to consider the
proposed 21 lot plan within the time left and given a reasonable extension of time; stated that if the
Town gets to the point that progress is not being made, then he would vote to deny the application
without prejudice.
Becky Clelland, Planning Commission Chairman, stated the Planning Commission has been
reviewing this project for over six months and this plan is the first adequate response they have
received; stated 30 days would not be adequate and requested at least 90 days for review.
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After discussion, Apri115th was the agreed upon deadline for review of the 21 lot plan. It was
clarified that after the 30 day limit the application review is not completed, the applicant has
indicated a willingness to extend the deadline.
The Town Engineer requested the applicant provide a grading plan showing slide repairs; a
geotechnical engineer statement that the plans comply with his requirements; computations
regarding cut and fill; plans showing driveway in larger scale; that a consultant retained by the Town
verifying the sewage proposal; plans showing the location of silt traps and whether grease traps are
needed; a letter from the Fire District stating that the plans have been checked; and stated this
information should be submitted at least 10 days before submittal to the Planning Commission for
reVIew.
Chair Friedman suggested a field trip to review story poles be conducted jointly with the Town
Council and Planning Commission. The Planning Director recommended an addendum to the EIR
be authorized to address the 21 lot plan.
After discussion, it was agreed to schedule the joint field trip to review story poles and road
markings to reflect the 21 lot plan on March 23, 1994, at 8:30 a.m. Further, it was agreed to place
this matter on the Apri16, 1994, Town Council meeting agenda for a status report.
D. ADJOURNMENT
There being no further business before the Town Council of the Town ofTiburon, Chair Friedman
adjourned the meeting at 11:30 p.m. to the next regular meeting of March 16, 1994.
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